011 Dialog Between Muhsin And Rachna

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Hello, thank you for visiting IslamiCity. How may I help you?

Muhsin

Hi !

Rachna

Hi:)

Muhsin

I’m interested in Islam but I wanted to know that if everything happens by will of god then why do we get hurt to the core …as god would always will good for us

Rachna

Hi, I am happy to learn that you are interested in Islam… I appreciate your interest in Islam 🙂

Muhsin

with regards to your question…
there are two things…
Allaah says in the Glorious Qur’an… the meaning of which is..
“perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not.” 2:216

Muhsin

let me explain through an example
there is a sister.. and she likes a xyz boy. now she thinks that he is the best person in the world and that she should be marrying him only, but things dont work out and the boy marries another girl

Muhsin

now the reason Allaah didnt allow that marriage to happen is.. that Allaah knew that guy was not good for her, even though she thought he was..
but Allaah is the Knower of All Things

Muhsin

so Allaah knew that after marriage she would curse herself as to why she married this particular guy
and that he seemed to be the best person before marriage but turned out to be the worst

Muhsin

so.. “perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not.” [2:216]

Muhsin

and sometimes it happens that we come to know about this very soon…
some time it takes years
sometimes a lifetime
in many cases we will come to know about the reality directly in the hereafter
you with me?

Muhsin

yup

Rachna

now with regards to another point is that.. we are told that this life is the test for the hereafter
and Allaah tests us with different things…

Muhsin

now you find that many people are slaves to their whims and desires and are not true slaves of Allaah
they say that they are slaves of Allaah, but when they are tested they turn on their heels and lose out in this world and in the Hereafter, and that is an evident loss

Muhsin

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And among mankind is he who worships Allaah as it were upon the edge (i.e. in doubt): if good befalls him, he is content therewith; but if a trial befalls him he turns back on his face (i.e. reverts to disbelief after embracing Islam). He loses both this world and the Hereafter. That is the evident loss”
[22:11]

Muhsin

also through these situations… it is attainment of reward and a rise in status.. Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said – “The believer is not harmed by a thorn or anything greater, but Allaah will raise him in status thereby, or erase a sin thereby.”
hope that gives you a better clarity now 🙂

Muhsin

Could you please elaborate the second part ? I think it emphasizes Trust and Patience even in the worst times

Rachna

yes it talks about God testing us and that the worst times doesnt remains forever
we are told “after every difficulty there is ease”
so we need to have trust in Allaah
and be patient in such times

Muhsin

What does being patient means?

Rachna

being patient means not cursing God, or time.. or crying over it again and again

Muhsin

Does questioning God about what had happened out of grief is wrong
I mean is it a sin?

Rachna

well it depends what kind of words one uses
if it relfects displeasure in Allaah about what has happened then that’s wrong

Muhsin

when something of this nature happens to us…
we are told to remind ourself by saying.. “Inna Lillaahi wa inna ilayhi raaji’oon” (Verily to Allah we belong and unto Him is our return)

Muhsin

Allaah says in the Glorious Qur’an.. the meaning of which is..
“Who, when afflicted with calamity, say: ‘Truly, to Allaah we belong and truly, to Him we shall return.’
They are those on whom are the Salawaat (i.e. who are blessed and will be forgiven) from their Lord, and (they are those who) receive His Mercy, and it is they who are the guided ones”
[2:156-157]

Muhsin

I just wonder how Islam has a way out to every trouble:)

Rachna

indeed
let me share with you one of my personal experience

Muhsin

Yes please

Rachna

few years back while travelling, I lost my wallet and i had 100$ in it
the moment I realized it fell from the pocket
I looked around but didn’t find it anywhere
and I had just received that money after doing some work

Muhsin

the moment i realized that the wallet is gone
and before that thought came to my mind… “Oh God why this happened to me”
i immediately acted on the guidance of Allaah
Verily to Allah we belong and unto Him is our return

Muhsin

I said… it worked.. its Allaah who provided that money for me now Allaah has taken it back
I simply left that place
came to my apartment

Muhsin

and all this time my cell phone was ringing
but I didn’t realize that
when I came home had around 4-5 miss calls

Muhsin

I dialed one the number back
and there was this person who said he has found my wallet
and is waiting for me to come and collect
because this rarely happens where I stay
once a money purse is lost
the money is gone

Muhsin

you will at the most find the empty wallet lying somewhere on the road or garbage bin
but its just that I was patient
and didn’t complain to Allaah
so it was a test for me 🙂

Muhsin

That’s really awesome!

Rachna

so Rachna… what interests you in Islam?

Muhsin

Whenever something negative happens around me…I mean there is lot of negativity out there nowadays..lot of mishaps, lot of suffering , me being a highly sensitive person …I just go nuts ..

Rachna

when I discuss with some of my Muslim friends they always illustrate saying this is why Islam abandons this, that etc., So I would wonder that how could they already be aware of all these and have precautions as well as solution to every thing

Rachna

This is how I wanted to learn more about what this religion is all about

Rachna

I see .. interesting
May I give u short proper idea about Islam- and main beliefs ? it will take me few minutes

Muhsin

Yes Please:)

Rachna

let me being with the meaning of Islam…the meaning of the Arabic word Islam is … “being obedient from heart”, “submission”, “obedience and worship with sincerity only for Allaah”.
and the one who does that… he is called as a “Muslim”.

Muhsin

so Islam is a religion, but it is also a complete way of life based upon a voluntary relationship between an individual and his Creator
It is the way of life ordained by God which was taught by each of His prophets and messengers

Muhsin

Islam is not a new religion, rather it is the same message preached by all earlier prophets such as Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus (peace be upon them all). But God’s final message to mankind was revealed to the last prophet, Muhammad, as a revival of lost teachings of previous prophets and as a reconfirmation of the eternal message

Muhsin

What distinguishes Islam from other religions is that it refuses to accept any form of creation whatsoever as a deity worthy of worship.
let me tell you more about God in Islam…

Muhsin

That’s interesting!

Rachna

Allaah is the proper name of the one true God. It is a beautiful name as well as unique; it has no plural or female form (like gods or goddess).

Muhsin

We worship Allaah as: Uniquely One God, Eternal who never changes, He has no need, no son, no daughter, no parents, no idols and no partners, and None is like Him.
Allaah is not dependant on any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependent on Him.

Muhsin

Yeah! My friends have explained me this

Rachna

Allaah never takes a human form. Allaah does not perform ungodly acts. Allaah does not make mistakes. Allaah does not forget.

Muhsin

so you see Rachna we believe that there is One God who created us all for a sublime and clear purpose in life:
1. to worship one God as He created us, sustains us with many blessings and shall judge us after death, so He deserves to be worshiped alone.

Muhsin

2. to work for the well-fare (development) of our societies. however, worship in Islam is not just rituals, it is a complete way of a good life

Muhsin

for example , If i smile to others , it is a kind of worship , also if I give water to a dog or a cat in the street , it is a kind of worship. also building hospitals and schools is a kind of worship. to do your job or work honestly is a kind of worship, as well.

Muhsin

In Islam, nothing is wasted, nothing is meaningless. Giving some water to a thirsty homeless animal can wipe out your sins. Birds and animals eating from plants you grow in your garden is a charity 🙂

Muhsin

That’s quite interesting

Rachna

so that was in brief about God in Islam

Muhsin

Its more about humanity I guess
Now I get to know that why Islam teaches that there is a reward for everything

Rachna

so that was in brief about God in Islam……Even I like this when you muslims don’t believe in idol worship…
So how do we get close to Allah

Rachna

yeah its simple concept… Worship the Creator, Not His Creation
“”So how do we get close to Allah”” – first by knowing about him properly and about his teachings etc

Muhsin

in simple words what you need to do is go step by step in proper order
so that as you go along you get to know things properly and many things are clarified in that process

Muhsin

if you have some time to spare I would like to share with you some things

Muhsin

I’m so sorry to say that I have got some work to do but I would put forward few questions if you would like to clarify them for me?

Rachna

oh no problem, i understand…
by the time you put your next question i would answer your question about… “how do we get close to Allah”

Muhsin

Yes please!

Rachna

in order to get close to Allaah a person must strive hard, first of all, to establish the obligatory duties that Allaah has enjoined upon him, such as the five daily prayers, which are the most important of the practical obligatory duties, as well as giving zakaah (charity), fasting in Ramadan and all the other obligatory practical duties, such as honouring one’s parents, upholding ties of kinship, fulfilling the rights of one’s wife and children, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, to the best of one’s ability, and other significant acts of worship which only draw one closer to Allah.

Muhsin

One must also do acts of worship of the heart, such as being sincere to Allaah, and loving Him, loving His Messenger and His law, putting one’s trust in Allah, fearing Him, and other acts of worship of the heart that have been enjoined.

Muhsin

Thank you:)

Rachna

I have a doubt.. when god is so merciful to love disbelievers by granting them all the bounties of world then why he has created hell for them

Rachna

well you see Rachna as mentioned earlier that this life is the test for the hereafter
and we are given our choice…

Muhsin

we can either obey Allaah
or we can disobey Allaah
its upto us

Muhsin

Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him informed us that Allaah created everyone for Paradise
its we who choose our path to hell

Muhsin

now heaven and hell are created as a reward and punishment for this test
now Allaah is Merciful
yet at the same time He is Just
now he wishes good for us
so he guided us through Prophets and revelations
so that we are guided to the right path of God

Muhsin

Okie!

Rachna

we are told there will be 3 types of people before God on judgment day:

Muhsin

1- The Believers: Those who received the message of God, saw the logic and common sense in it, believed in it, and became Muslims. Allah promised them Heaven. if one died on sincere belief in God and his good deeds were more than his sins, he will go to heaven (paradise). but if his sins were more than his good deeds, it is up to God who can punish him in hell for the sins he did.

Muhsin

2- The Disbelievers: Those who received the message of God, saw the logic and common sense in it, but rejected it only because of their arrogance and self-pride. They clearly & undoubtedly saw the truth in front of them, but they closed their eyes and turned away from it. Allah promised them Hell.

Muhsin

3. The Ignorant: Those who did not receive the message of God clearly, or the message was not presented to them properly, or didn’t get a chance to know Islam, or died before hearing about Islam..etc. Those will be isolated on the Day of Judgement, God will present to them the message and they will have the free will to either Believe it, or Reject it. Their destiny will be according to their choice.

Muhsin

so If you would ask me if they (all non-Muslims) will be punished or not, there’s no definite answer. only God knows if they died disbelievers or ignorant. maybe they’ll be considered of the ignorant (3rd type), maybe not. Only God can decide if a person was a believer , or disbeliever , or just ignorant
hope that gives you a more bigger picture now

Muhsin

Yeah:)

Rachna

Thank you very much ! You have been so clear with every concepts I wanted to understand ..your explanation was so clear and simple

Rachna

you are more than welcome 🙂

Muhsin

Have a great day:)

Rachna

Is there anything else I might help you with today?

Muhsin

Let me go through with what you have explained … will recah back if anything required ..Thanks again!
reach*

Rachna

sure, no problem : )
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Muhsin

Bye
Take Care
Have a great day ahead

Muhsin

Bye 🙂

Rachna

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